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Elsa Pereira

Dear TEI-List,

I have a question about Module 12 (Critical Apparatus) and would be grateful if any of you were so kind as to clarify it.

I am trying to complement the witnesses identification in the <listWit> element (within the <front> matter) with a full structured description, supplied in <msDesc> and <biblStruct> (within the <sourceDesc> element of the <teiHeader>).
The Guidelines suggest using a <ptr> with a @target.

My doubt is: where exactly should I place the @xml:id that will identify each @wit in the various <rdg> elements of <app>?
Do I have to put the @xml:id in <witness> (within <listWit>) or may I put it in each <msDesc> and <biblStruct> (within the <sourceDesc>) and then use a <ptr> in <witness>, pointing to the <sourceDesc>?


Will the apparatus work perfectly well, if I do this?


<sourceDesc>
    <msDesc xml:id="B">
         <!-- full description of manuscript one -->
    </msDesc>
    <biblStruct xml:id="A">
         <!-- full description of printed document one -->
    </biblStruct>
    <biblStruct xml:id="C">
         <!-- full description of printed document two -->
    </biblStruct>
</sourceDesc>
           

<!-- bellow in the front matter-->
<div>
      <listWit>
           <witness>Printed document one <ptr target="#A"/></witness>
           <witness>Manuscript one <ptr target="#B"/></witness>
           <witness>Printed document two <ptr target="#C"/></witness>
      </listWit>
</div>
         

<!-- bellow in the text body -->
<app>
          <rdg wit="#A #B">some text</rdg>
          <rdg wit="#C">text here</rdg>
</app>



I am sorry if this obvious, but I would like to have your validation.


Thank you very much for all the help,
Elsa Pereira

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Re: <listWit> and <sourceDesc>

Franz Fischer-2
Dear Elsa,

I'd suggest to place the @xml:id on each <witness> and to point from
each <witness> to the (different) @xml:id of the respective <msDesc> or
<biblStruct>.

Or you include <msDesc> and <biblStruct> into the description of each
<witness>. In that case your <witList> would be better placed within the
<sourceDesc>.

All best,
Franz


Am 10.05.2018 um 15:32 schrieb Elsa Pereira:

>
> Dear TEI-List,
>
> I have a question about Module 12 (Critical Apparatus) and would be
> grateful if any of you were so kind as to clarify it.
>
> I am trying to complement the witnesses identification in the
> <listWit> element (within the <front> matter) with a full structured
> description, supplied in <msDesc> and <biblStruct> (within the
> <sourceDesc> element of the <teiHeader>).
> The Guidelines suggest using a <ptr> with a @target.
>
> My doubt is: where exactly should I place the @xml:id that will
> identify each @wit in the various <rdg> elements of <app>?
> Do I have to put the @xml:id in <witness> (within <listWit>) or may I
> put it in each <msDesc> and <biblStruct> (within the <sourceDesc>) and
> then use a <ptr> in <witness>, pointing to the <sourceDesc>?
>
>
> Will the apparatus work perfectly well, if I do this?
>
>
> <sourceDesc>
>     <msDesc xml:id="B">
>          <!-- full description of manuscript one -->
>     </msDesc>
>     <biblStruct xml:id="A">
>          <!-- full description of printed document one -->
>     </biblStruct>
>     <biblStruct xml:id="C">
>          <!-- full description of printed document two -->
>     </biblStruct>
> </sourceDesc>
>
>
> <!-- bellow in the front matter-->
> <div>
>       <listWit>
>            <witness>Printed document one <ptr target="#A"/></witness>
>            <witness>Manuscript one <ptr target="#B"/></witness>
>            <witness>Printed document two <ptr target="#C"/></witness>
>       </listWit>
> </div>
>
>
> <!-- bellow in the text body -->
> <app>
>           <rdg wit="#A #B">some text</rdg>
>           <rdg wit="#C">text here</rdg>
> </app>
>
>
>
> I am sorry if this obvious, but I would like to have your validation.
>
>
> Thank you very much for all the help,
> Elsa Pereira
>
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Re: <listWit> and <sourceDesc>

Elsa Pereira
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Thank you very much for your assistance, dear Franz.

I just tried both options (bellow) and it finally makes sense.

With gratitude,
Elsa


__________

OPTION 1

<sourceDesc>
    <msDesc xml:id="ms1">
         <!-- full description of manuscript one -->
    </msDesc>
    <biblStruct xml:id="print1">
         <!-- full description of printed document one -->
    </biblStruct>
    <biblStruct xml:id="print2">
         <!-- full description of printed document two -->
    </biblStruct>
</sourceDesc>
           

<!-- bellow in the front matter-->
<div>
      <listWit>
           <witness xml:id="A">Printed document one <ptr target="#print1"/></witness>
           <witness xml:id="B">Manuscript one <ptr target="#ms1"/></witness>
           <witness xml:id="C">Printed document two <ptr target="#print2"/></witness>
      </listWit>
</div>
         

<!-- bellow in the text body -->
<app>
          <rdg wit="#A #B">some text</rdg>
          <rdg wit="#C">text here</rdg>
</app>


________

OPTION 2

<sourceDesc>
    <listWit>
           <witness xml:id="B">
                <msDesc>
                       <!-- full description of manuscript one -->
                </msDesc>
           </witness>
           <witness xml:id="A">
                <biblStruct>
                       <!-- full description of printed document one -->
                </biblStruct>
           </witness>
           <witness xml:id="C">
                <biblStruct>
                       <!-- full description of printed document two -->
                </biblStruct>
           </witness>
     </listWit>
</sourceDesc>
         

<!-- bellow in the text body -->
<app>
          <rdg wit="#A #B">some text</rdg>
          <rdg wit="#C">text here</rdg>
</app>


 

Citando Franz Fischer <[hidden email]>:

Dear Elsa,

I'd suggest to place the @xml:id on each <witness> and to point from each <witness> to the (different) @xml:id of the respective <msDesc> or <biblStruct>.

Or you include <msDesc> and <biblStruct> into the description of each <witness>. In that case your <witList> would be better placed within the <sourceDesc>.

All best,
Franz


Am 10.05.2018 um 15:32 schrieb Elsa Pereira:

Dear TEI-List,

I have a question about Module 12 (Critical Apparatus) and would be grateful if any of you were so kind as to clarify it.

I am trying to complement the witnesses identification in the <listWit> element (within the <front> matter) with a full structured description, supplied in <msDesc> and <biblStruct> (within the <sourceDesc> element of the <teiHeader>).
The Guidelines suggest using a <ptr> with a @target.

My doubt is: where exactly should I place the @xml:id that will identify each @wit in the various <rdg> elements of <app>?
Do I have to put the @xml:id in <witness> (within <listWit>) or may I put it in each <msDesc> and <biblStruct> (within the <sourceDesc>) and then use a <ptr> in <witness>, pointing to the <sourceDesc>?


Will the apparatus work perfectly well, if I do this?


<sourceDesc>
    <msDesc xml:id="B">
         <!-- full description of manuscript one -->
    </msDesc>
    <biblStruct xml:id="A">
         <!-- full description of printed document one -->
    </biblStruct>
    <biblStruct xml:id="C">
         <!-- full description of printed document two -->
    </biblStruct>
</sourceDesc>


<!-- bellow in the front matter-->
<div>
      <listWit>
           <witness>Printed document one <ptr target="#A"/></witness>
           <witness>Manuscript one <ptr target="#B"/></witness>
           <witness>Printed document two <ptr target="#C"/></witness>
      </listWit>
</div>


<!-- bellow in the text body -->
<app>
          <rdg wit="#A #B">some text</rdg>
          <rdg wit="#C">text here</rdg>
</app>



I am sorry if this obvious, but I would like to have your validation.


Thank you very much for all the help,
Elsa Pereira