Dear TEI-L readers, for the Deutsches Textarchiv and the Digital Humanities Cooperation of the Technische Universität Darmstadt and the Universität Konstanz (head: Thomas Weitin) we are encoding a collection/anthology of novels.
Some novels contain a <bibl>iographic reference to an earlier edition of that same text, e.g. a newspaper where the novel now reprinted in the anthology first appeared. An example can be found here:
Andolt, Ernst [d. i. Bernhard Abeken]: Eine Nacht. In: Deutscher Novellenschatz. Hrsg. von Paul Heyse und Hermann Kurz. Bd. 22. 2. Aufl. Berlin, , S. 211–287. In: Deutsches Textarchiv <http://www.deutschestextarchiv.de/andolt_nacht_1910/4>, abgerufen am 09.08.2017,where "Westermann's Illustrirte Monatshefte. 1857." designates the place of the first publication of that text, i.e. clearly a <bibl>iographic reference. However, <bibl> is not allowed on itself on a <titlePage> -- by the way: why not? --, so it must be wrapped, e.g. with some @type of <titlePart> like "desc" or with a specified <docEdition> tag.
As a first proposal, we decided for <titlePart type="desc">, but I am not really happy with it, because "Westermann's Illustrirte Monatshefte. 1857." is in no way a "descriptive paraphrase of the work" (cf. http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-titlePart.html).
<docEdition> at first glance seemed to fit better according to its description as containing "an edition statement as presented on a title page of a document". On the other hand, we would generally use <docEdition> to annotate phrases like "2nd, revised Edition", etc. on title pages, i.e. information concerning the text actually represented in the TEI-document I am working on, but not to wrap it around references to earlier editions of that same text given on the titlePage. Then we thought, we could add a @type-value to that particular <docEdition> to distinguish it from the one usually appearing on the titlePages stating the edition of the text presented on the pages following the titlePage. But @type is not allowed for <docEdition>... So this is not the solution.
Do you have any other suggestions or examples from your own experience?
Thanks in advance for hints and comments, best wishes
-- Christian Thomas Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter Deutsches Textarchiv, www.deutschestextarchiv.de CLARIN-D, www.clarin-d.net, www.deutschestextarchiv.de/clarin_kupro Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften Jägerstr. 22/23 10117 Berlin Raum: 154 Tel.: +49 (0)30 20370 523 E-Mail: [hidden email] --
This is a good challenge, because it shows us the difficulty of negotiating the descriptive and the semantic dimensions of title pages. If this were my project, I'd prefer the use of <docEdition> and wrapping that around bibl, and I'd also consider (using XPath relationships as a flag) that the simple presence of a bibl inside a docEdition element would set it apart from the other ways you're applying it (where we don't expect to see a bibl).
That said, would it be a terrible thing to use an @ana on docEdition to give it a classification? I'm not sure a classifying attribute is really necessary if XPath can show the difference between two applications of docEdition, but I imagine a lot depends on how you expect to process the documents.
If @type is preferable, of course you could work it into an ODD schema to customize your use of docEdition. But perhaps it's not necessary.
Hope this helps,
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Christian Thomas <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Elisa, thank you for your mail and please excuse the late reply -- I was hoping, others might join in. But I guess the matter should be settled very much as you suggested:
Am 09.08.2017 um 16:13 schrieb Elisa Beshero-Bondar:
We now have two places with <docEdition> in the document, one being on the <titlePage type="main">
http://www.deutschestextarchiv.de/andolt_nacht_1910/1, XPath: /TEI/text/front/titlePage/docEditionand the other one on the <titlePage type="halftitle">, where <docEdition> is wrapping the <bibl> I could not use there without any element around it:
http://www.deutschestextarchiv.de/andolt_nacht_1910/4, XPath: /TEI/text/front/titlePage/docEdition/bibl@ana, to me, seems to unspecific, and while I would prefer to add a @type to the <docEdition> element, we do want to keep the DTA Base Format fully TEI_all-conformant. Unless others feel that need to, it does not seem necessary enough for the community to raise the issue of allowing @type inside <docEdition>.
Thanks again and all the best
-- Christian Thomas [hidden email] @dta_cthomas --
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